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Can We Really Forgive Everyone?

A Discussion of Buddhist Thich Nhat Hanh's Perspective

by Jeffrey Rubin, PhD

Dr. Jeffrey Rubin

Welcome to From Insults to Respect. 

Recently, I began to think about forgiveness. It started while writing my previous post, “Saying Goodbye at Life’s End: A Meditation on Bob Dylan’s Song, ‘When the Deal Goes Down.’ In the song, Bob has a line that says,

We learn to live and then we forgive
O’er the road we’re bound to go

Where is the road bound to take us in this song? As I listen to its sad tone, I found myself interpreting these words as referring to our last days of life. I wondered, who are we to forgive for the fact that if we are born, we ultimately must end up dying. Are we to forgive nature or God for this sad state of affairs? To forgive is an intentional decision to let go of grudges, resentment and anger. My rational justification over the years for not forgiving has relied on two principles–1. most people want to be liked and respected, and 2. if I express my not forgiving to others about something I became angry about, it might promote the idea that such behavior leads to grudges, and as more and more people become aware of this, it might motivate people to behave better. At the same time, I’m aware that whenever I express anger toward someone whom I happen to be holding a grudge, this can provoke anger right back at me, perhaps leading to the person feeling justified for doing me a wrong.

That said, in the case of nature’s creation of life leading ultimately to death, rationally, I have no hope nature or God is going to change this state of affairs because I’m angry about it. So, I decided to seek to forgive this fact of life. I’m working on it.

But what about the many who have argued that letting go in general to grudges and bitterness can make way for improved health and peace of mind. For example, according to an article by the Mayo Clinic’s staff, forgiveness can lead to:

  • Healthier relationships.
  • Improved mental health.
  • Less anxiety, stress and hostility.
  • Fewer symptoms of depression.
  • Lower blood pressure.
  • A stronger immune system.
  • Improved heart health.
  • Improved self-esteem.

This same Mayo Clinic team informs us that if we struggle with forgiveness we might,

  • Bring anger and bitterness into new relationships and experiences.
  • Become so wrapped up in the wrong that you can’t enjoy the present.
  • Become depressed, irritable or anxious.
  • Feel at odds with your spiritual beliefs.
  • Lose valuable and enriching connections with others.

Thich Nhat Hanh

As I was thinking about all of this, I happened to be reading Thich Nhat Hanh’s book, No Death, No Fear, which seeks to help us grapple with the loss of a loved one, and to confront our own mortality. Like the Mayo Clinic’s staff, Hanh is a big supporter of forgiveness. At one point, he writes,

We need to return to ourselves and embrace our blood and our spiritual ancestors. We cannot get rid of them. They are a fact, and they are there. They are part of our bodies and our souls. 

Soon after this, Hanh writes,

To accept others as they are, we must begin with ourselves. If we cannot accept ourselves as we are, we will never be able to accept others. When I look at myself, I see positive, admirable and even remarkable things, but I also know that there are negative parts of me. So first I recognize and accept myself.

To come to understand this on some rational level may be relatively easy, but when burning inside about some terrible wrong, that’s quite a bit more challenging. Hanh suggests a process in the form of a ceremony carried out over a few weeks can get us where we hope to end up. He refers to it as “Touching the Earth.” Here’s how he describes it:

When you touch the earth the first time, practice accepting all of your ancestors, just as they are. This is very important. Unconditional acceptance is the first step in opening the door to the miracle of forgiveness. Jesus said, “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who have trespassed against us.” He understood that the first step of forgiveness is to accept other people just as they are, even if they have harmed us

Wherever you are standing to practice, Touching the Earth — before a rock, or mountain, or flower, or altar in your home — practice conscious breathing. Breathing in and breathing out, you visualize your ancestors, and you see all of their positive and negative points. Be determined to accept them all as your ancestors without hesitation. After that, you prostrate, touching the earth with your knees, your hands, and your forehead. Stay in that position while you continue the visualization:

“Dear ancestors, I am you, with all your strengths and weaknesses. I see you have positive and negative seeds. I understand that you have been lucky and that good seeds like kindness, compassion and fearlessness were watered in you. I also understand that if you were not lucky and negative seeds like greed, jealousy and fear were watered in you, then the positive seeds did not have a chance to grow.”

From Hanh’s experience teaching this method for many years he has found it very helpful.

I hasten to point out that just because you end up forgiving, does not mean you are accepting negative conditions that are currently being carried out. Doing your best to display positive behaviors and attitudes can rub off on others. For Hanh, the ongoing of teaching the lessons of Buddha can water good seeds.

My blog draws on a variety of approaches to achieve similar ends. I have witnessed counseling with someone compassionate and willing to deeply listen to what the person is experiencing as he or she seeks the goal of achieving forgiveness for a particularly troubling anger issue. This can often be very helpful. Heartwarming stories of forgiveness can also be enormously helpful.

Well, those are some of my thoughts for the week.

My Best,
Jeff

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Some people will enjoy reading this blog by beginning with the first post and then moving forward to the next more recent one; then to the next one; and so on. This permits readers to catch up on some ideas that were presented earlier and to move through all of the ideas in a systematic fashion to develop their emotional intelligence. There is no cost for doing so. To begin at the very first post you can click HERE.

About the Author

Jeffrey Rubin grew up in Brooklyn and received his PhD from the University of Minnesota. In his earlier life, he worked in clinical settings, schools, and a juvenile correctional facility. More recently, he authored three novels, A Hero Grows in Brooklyn, Fights in the Streets, Tears in the Sand, and Love, Sex, and Respect (information about these novels can be found at http://www.frominsultstorespect.com/novels/). Currently, he writes a blog titled “From Insults to Respect” that features suggestions for working through conflict, dealing with anger, and supporting respectful relationships.

10 Comments

  1. Roald Michel says:

    I can. But in some cases, whatever the consequences, I won’t.

    • Dr. Jeffrey Rubin says:

      Why not?

      • Roald Michel says:

        Because it doesn’t match my core personality.

        Two examples.

        1. Do you know what happened to Gisele Pelicot? Well, the men who raped her, as well as her husband who made that happen, I do not want to forgive, regardless of the reason that caused their behavior.

        2. Looking back at what you wrote about dying, I will never forgive that god you were talking about for creating such a horrible world where people, animals, and plants cannot survive unless they kill other living beings. And that they are punished by him for that closes the door completely for me.

        Note: And as I have stated elsewhere, I will also call that god to the stand for the misery my wife went through before she died, if that silly Day of Judgment does indeed happen.

        • Dr. Jeffrey Rubin says:

          I am in sympathy for your reasons. I wonder what good it serves you to hold on to these.

          • Roald Michel says:

            WWhat good it serves me?

            There are people who feel better because I stand by them in their misery, and do not look for mitigating circumstances for the one(s) who brought them into that misery. Gives me warm feelings.

            Furthermore, it is not as extreme as my commentary may have made it seem. There are, in fact, bastards whom I have allowed to live. Still, “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth” was never appealing to me. When in the mood, I take both/all. Or make the offender/abuser believe I will do that, which quite often leads to a decrease in the scumbagery. Makes me laugh. And Lilith knows I more than ever need that these days.

            But anyway, revenge, retaliation, and not-forgiving, does not make me (to use a vanilla word) really happy. Still I won’t let it go, as it makes me and others feel good.

  2. Dr. Jeffrey Rubin says:

    Roald,

    I understand the sentiment that when someone you care about is feeling miserable about a wrong done to that someone, making statements indicating you are “standing by'” the angered party in his or her misery creates warm feelings. Avoiding statements about mitigation circumstances while anger is flaring seems wise. If “standing beside the angered party means you are making statements indicating the hurt party is perfectly justified in his or her anger toward that horrible human being who did the wrong, this needs some careful consideration. The insults can get back to the target of the anger, and to others who care about the person who did the wrong. This can lead to some undesirable consequences. I think you can create a supportive “stand beside you” feeling while avoiding insulting language. Just listening in a compassionate manner while expressing that you understand why the angered person is angry can be safer and perhaps equally conducive to warm feelings.

    Jeff

    • Roald Michel says:

      In my second response of December 7, 2024 I responded to your question “……what good it serves you”. The ‘warm feelings’ were part of that. You chose to respond to that specific part, and not the rest of my comment. What struck me was that you were talking in general terms, and not about cases of extreme misery, while all my comments were focussed on those. I have no problem acting as you suggest when it comes to what I call light cases (e.g. insults). But when it comes to serious filth (e.g. rape) that changes, and then the possible ‘undesirable consequences’ of my attitude and behavior are not important anymore.

      • Dr. Jeffrey Rubin says:

        Roald, I well understand your feelings/attitude that there are some extreme misery cases in which you are not desiring to forgive regardless of undesirable consequences. I have been struggling with my own feelings about this, and that’s why I tossed out the question. When the wrong doer shows no remorse, wow, to forgive in the extreme misery cases–I, myself, have found I’m in a no forgiving state. And yet, listening to those advocating for the health values of forgiveness for the forgiver even then intrigues me, for the anger I feel seems at times to be eating away at my inners.

        • Roald Michel says:

          Re: “……the anger I feel seems at times to be eating away at my inners.” Same here. And as I said earlier, ‘not-forgiving’ does not make me happy. But I won’t let that stop me. If I have to suffer a little because of this, then so be it, because it is in no way comparable to the misery that someone else has had to endure (e.g. Gisele Pelicot), or is still suffering from.

  3. Raghunath Narayanrao Kargaonkar says:

    Very well expressed. It percolates and feels at experiential level.

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